Aira,
I'm copying the Bicycle Board members on this and asking them to reply-all to this message with:
1. Any text they think should be on the logo 2. Any iconic local buildings that they think would appropriate for a background skyline 3. Their thoughts about changing the name of the Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board.
Frank /Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles/
On 12/4/2009 11:25 AM, Aira Loren Burkhart wrote:
Frank,
I just sent you that article because I thought it was neat, not as an action item, just something aspire to in the future.
I didn't receive the newsletter. Maybe they are getting sent to spam? I did not see it in my spam folder, though. Please attach it and resend.
Can you have the bike board email me about the text to appear on the logo? If everyone is copied on the correspondence, I think an email discussion will probably be reflective of everyone's ideas, at least enough to get a start. Are there any iconic local buildings that the board thinks would appropriate for a background skyline? (In a concept with such a skyline. I'm not married to any particular concept.)
Do you have an feeling about the name, aside from the procedural hoops of suggesting such a change? Does it strike you as a good idea, or not worth the hassle?
thanks, aira
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@verizon.net mailto:fgmeindl@verizon.net> wrote:
We'd need at least 14 feet of lane width to add a bike lane, green or otherwise. I am not aware of any lanes that wide in Morgantown or WV. The reason we advocated for sharrows (Shared Lane Markings) is that they can be installed on lanes that are less than 14 feet wide (at least 4 feet from the curb with no car pakring or 11 feet the curb with on-street parking (MUTCD standard) and when accompanied by Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs can be effective. That's what we succeeded in getting through the City and the State until there was a personnel change in the WVDOH that resulted in their retracting their approval. Now, Janel is leading a project intended to get that approval again. The BB will have to decide by consensus what the logo will represent, i.e. whether or not it has the BB name. To change the name of the Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board we will have to get concurrence from the Traffic Commission that formed and governs us. Attached are the Procedural Guidelines that define us. Please also be aware that the BB's vision states: "All Morgantown residents can enjoy bicycling safely and fearlessly anywhere, anytime, for any reason. " Aira, last night, I sent you the Bicycle Board's November report to the Traffic Commission. The report is organized by the E's. You might also look at our application for a LAB Bicycle Friendly Community award at http://www.morgantown.com/bike-board-documents/BFC%20Application.zip . The criteria for the award are the E's and reading through the criteria provides a clear idea of what each E means. FYI, since we applied for the award in 2008, the LAB added a 6th E: Equality. The BB November report to the TC explains it. Frank /Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles/ On 12/4/2009 10:41 AM, Aira Loren Burkhart wrote:Here is the Austin article I was talking about. I think the large painted road areas look very understandable to drivers and cyclists alike. http://www.austin360.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/fitcity/entries/2009/10/21/city_installs_experimental_str.html Also, will the logo depict the name as "Morgantown Bicycle Board"? My husband suggested that "Morgantown Bicycle Authority" (MBA) has more teeth to it. "Morgantown Bicycle Commission" also sounds somewhat more official than "Board" though less so than "Authority". Please send the newsletter with the "E" statements and also specify if you would like any kind of slogan incorporated into the "seal/logo" itself. Thanks! aira ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org <mailto:Bikeboard@cheat.org> http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Aira,
I have learned that changing the name of the Bicycle Board will at least be difficult. To change the name to the names suggested would require a reorganization by the City Council. Within the structure of the Morgantown City government, we are already completely "official". We have no "teeth" as we do make rules or deliver a service as say, the Parking Authority or Transit Authority do. Since we are subordinate to the Traffic Commission, being a commission of a commission would be problematic.
Traffic Commission members have told me that we have led them to understand that bicyclists are a legitimate part of traffic and to consider how their decisions will affect bicyclists. I dare say we may even be having a similar impact at the State level.
Our performance will prove our authority.
Perhaps we should first focus on an image before adding words to it.
Frank /Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles/
On 12/4/2009 3:00 PM, Frank Gmeindl wrote:
Aira,
I'm copying the Bicycle Board members on this and asking them to reply-all to this message with:
- Any text they think should be on the logo
- Any iconic local buildings that they think would appropriate for a background skyline
- Their thoughts about changing the name of the Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board.
Frank /Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles/
On 12/4/2009 11:25 AM, Aira Loren Burkhart wrote:
Frank,
I just sent you that article because I thought it was neat, not as an action item, just something aspire to in the future.
I didn't receive the newsletter. Maybe they are getting sent to spam? I did not see it in my spam folder, though. Please attach it and resend.
Can you have the bike board email me about the text to appear on the logo? If everyone is copied on the correspondence, I think an email discussion will probably be reflective of everyone's ideas, at least enough to get a start. Are there any iconic local buildings that the board thinks would appropriate for a background skyline? (In a concept with such a skyline. I'm not married to any particular concept.)
Do you have an feeling about the name, aside from the procedural hoops of suggesting such a change? Does it strike you as a good idea, or not worth the hassle?
thanks, aira
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@verizon.net mailto:fgmeindl@verizon.net> wrote:
We'd need at least 14 feet of lane width to add a bike lane, green or otherwise. I am not aware of any lanes that wide in Morgantown or WV. The reason we advocated for sharrows (Shared Lane Markings) is that they can be installed on lanes that are less than 14 feet wide (at least 4 feet from the curb with no car pakring or 11 feet the curb with on-street parking (MUTCD standard) and when accompanied by Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs can be effective. That's what we succeeded in getting through the City and the State until there was a personnel change in the WVDOH that resulted in their retracting their approval. Now, Janel is leading a project intended to get that approval again. The BB will have to decide by consensus what the logo will represent, i.e. whether or not it has the BB name. To change the name of the Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board we will have to get concurrence from the Traffic Commission that formed and governs us. Attached are the Procedural Guidelines that define us. Please also be aware that the BB's vision states: "All Morgantown residents can enjoy bicycling safely and fearlessly anywhere, anytime, for any reason. " Aira, last night, I sent you the Bicycle Board's November report to the Traffic Commission. The report is organized by the E's. You might also look at our application for a LAB Bicycle Friendly Community award at http://www.morgantown.com/bike-board-documents/BFC%20Application.zip . The criteria for the award are the E's and reading through the criteria provides a clear idea of what each E means. FYI, since we applied for the award in 2008, the LAB added a 6th E: Equality. The BB November report to the TC explains it. Frank /Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles/ On 12/4/2009 10:41 AM, Aira Loren Burkhart wrote:Here is the Austin article I was talking about. I think the large painted road areas look very understandable to drivers and cyclists alike. http://www.austin360.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/fitcity/entries/2009/10/21/city_installs_experimental_str.html Also, will the logo depict the name as "Morgantown Bicycle Board"? My husband suggested that "Morgantown Bicycle Authority" (MBA) has more teeth to it. "Morgantown Bicycle Commission" also sounds somewhat more official than "Board" though less so than "Authority". Please send the newsletter with the "E" statements and also specify if you would like any kind of slogan incorporated into the "seal/logo" itself. Thanks! aira ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org <mailto:Bikeboard@cheat.org> http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Aira, I think we should keep the Morgantown Municipal Bike Board name the same, as I've seen in subsequent emails. However, that may be a long name to include in the logo. Will you be able to include all of that in the logo? I'm picturing a BB logo with a bike, a road, and perhaps Woodburn Hall or Dorsey Knob in the background with the full bike board name around the logo. Maybe we should look at our mission statement to make sure our ideas or outcome are consistent with that. If someone could chime in with exactly what it is, I'd appreciate it. Derek Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular
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Derek,
We don't have a "mission statement" as such. When we first formed, we spent months developing a vision. The result is that our vision is that "All Morgantown residents can enjoy bicycling safely and fearlessly anywhere, anytime, for any reason".
I guess our mission is to make that so.
Frank /Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles/
On 12/8/2009 9:04 PM, guitardeek@hotmail.com wrote:
Aira, I think we should keep the Morgantown Municipal Bike Board name the same, as I've seen in subsequent emails. However, that may be a long name to include in the logo. Will you be able to include all of that in the logo? I'm picturing a BB logo with a bike, a road, and perhaps Woodburn Hall or Dorsey Knob in the background with the full bike board name around the logo. Maybe we should look at our mission statement to make sure our ideas or outcome are consistent with that. If someone could chime in with exactly what it is, I'd appreciate it. Derek Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@verizon.net Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:00:27 To: Aira Loren Burkhartairaloren@gmail.com; Bicycle Boardbikeboard@cheat.org Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] misc
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Another idea is to somehow incorporate the ugly morgantown "M" from existing logos into a bike rider silhouette. I also like Derek's regional idea - incorporate mountains, twisty roads, landmarks).
Chet
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@verizon.net wrote:
Derek,
We don't have a "mission statement" as such. When we first formed, we spent months developing a vision. The result is that our vision is that "All Morgantown residents can enjoy bicycling safely and fearlessly anywhere, anytime, for any reason".
I guess our mission is to make that so.
Frank *Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles*
On 12/8/2009 9:04 PM, guitardeek@hotmail.com wrote:
Aira, I think we should keep the Morgantown Municipal Bike Board name the same, as I've seen in subsequent emails. However, that may be a long name to include in the logo. Will you be able to include all of that in the logo? I'm picturing a BB logo with a bike, a road, and perhaps Woodburn Hall or Dorsey Knob in the background with the full bike board name around the logo. Maybe we should look at our mission statement to make sure our ideas or outcome are consistent with that. If someone could chime in with exactly what it is, I'd appreciate it. Derek Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular
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